first dog bo has this christmas decoration patrol thing down. bo has good reason to make sure everything checks out. look at him checking on everything. some 90,000 visitors will tour the white house this holiday season. i love that he's doing that. >> no rush. just kind of strolling around. >> he's not even touching the ornaments. so well behaved. >> he's a well behaved dog. thank you so much for starting your morning with us. >> much more coming up on "cnn saturday morning" starts right now. good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. >> i'm victor blackwell. we begin in a deeply divided egypt where tensions are ramping up. >> the country's brotherhood has called for 2 million man marches in support of mohamed morsi. demonstrators are rallying in cairo in support of the embattled president. >> but opposition factions are

calling on rival demonstrators to call out, as well. let's go to ian lee who is in cairo's tahrir square. you are at the scene of the anti-morsi protests. are crowds turning out there? >> this crowd in tahrir square is smaller than what we've seen the previous days, but usually the crowd picks up later into the evening. we've seen tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people in tahrir square. but there's a dueling protest at cairo university where the muslim brotherhood and islamists are calling out for their supporters to show up. this is the first time we're seeing the brotherhood flex its street muscle, if you will. and show their support for the president. there's thousands, tens of thousands at that rally already right now. this is a big moment for them because we haven't seen them come out and give their opinion and this comes as the president morsi embattled as he is, trying to push the country into

accepting a new draft constitution, which should be voted on within the next 15 days. >> and i'm curious. have the rallies, have the been protests been pretty much calm or, i know there has been some fear about violent clashes or at least escalating a bit. >> well, muslim brotherhood initially called for their rally to be in tahrir square today, but at the last minute, they moved it to cairo university to avoid clashes. but yesterday we did see clashes between pro-morsi and anti-morsi protesters in the port city of alexandria. it is a very heated debate right now. this is divided egypt along two different lines and if these two groups do come together, we are, we would expect to see clashes because tempers are so high. >> all right. ian lee, appreciate that. thank you very much. and to belize now where a murder mystery has forced

interinate mogul john mcafee into hiding. police want to question mcafee who is maintaining his innocence following the shooting death of his neighbor. he talked to martin savidge in his first sit down interview about life on the run. >> are you afraid? >> wouldn't you be, sir? >> what have these weeks been like? it has been three weeks now. >> it hasn't been a lot of fun. i miss my prior life. much of it has been deprivation. no baths, well, poor food, at least. here we're in belize, hot showers, a stove. so, we're fairly happy right now. >> how is this going to end? how do you see this coming to an end? >> i don't have a crystal ball. if i continue to fight until something changes. >> you will not turn yourself in? >> i will not. >> it will be that either you get away or the authorities come and get you? >> one of those two. get away doesn't mean leave the country, it means that number one they will find the murder of

mr. fall and, number two, the people of this country who are by and large terrified to speak out will start speaking out and something will change. >> north korean's leade kim jung-un is raising the stakes with washington and the neighbor to the south. he plans to launch a rocket within days. the state-run media says a rocket carrying a satellite into orbit will lift off between december 10th and december 22nd. south korea warns if pyongyang goes ahead, they can expect a strong response. remember, the first was back in april. that hyped launch that actually failed. both washington and seoul suspect the rocket launch will really cover for ballistic missile tests. back here at home, issue number one is reaching a deal on that fiscal cliff. just 31 days left until we hit those $7 trillion in automatic

spending cuts and tax increases, if negotiations break down. both sides of the aisle are going straight to the public in order to plead their case or tell us why the other side is to blame. this is president obama a in his weekly radio address. >> both parties say we should keep middle class taxes low. the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. if we can just get a few house republicans on board, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress send it my way. but, it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> in the republican response, senator orrin hatch takes that hostage metaphor one step further and brings to mind a memorable movie scene. >> unfortunately, some on the other side of the aisle are

advocating a disastrous thelma and louise strategy that would take us over the cliff putting families and small businesses and weak economy in further jeopardy. >> negotiations will continue on capitol hill next week. president obama has said he wants to get a deal done by christmas day. well, tragedy on the campus of caspar college in wyoming where police say a man using what they're calling just a sharp edged weapon carried out a fatal attack. the man injured one person. that person was killed and then he went into a classroom and killed another person and then killed himself. the victims have not been identified, but police say all three, two men and one woman knew each other and they add that the attacker appeared to have worked alone. we've got much more ahead this hour. >> here's a look at what's coming up. >> storming capitol hill naked. no, it wasn't a frat prank, it was a statement for aids

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folks out there in central park ice skating and only ten minutes past 7:00 on the east coast. you have to get out and get it early. looks like such a nice shot. happy holidays, everybody. glad you're with us. this year's election left the republican party at a crossroad searching for a new image. a new way ahead, a new plan to bring in new voters. it's our focus this morning. not only did the republicans lose the presidential race, they lost seats in both the house and the senate, but several party leaders say they've got a plan. change. change who they target. change what they talk about and change the attitude. it's a grand plan, but will it work? earlier i asked cnn contributor erick erickson who is the manager of the popular conservative blog redstate.com. you wrote, it's not time to throw out social conservatives. it's time to accept that without them, the gop would be even a

smaller party and less able to reach out to the hispanic demographic and all the smart people need to embrace. addition through subtraction never really works well. tell us why those who say the republican party should soften a little bit are wrong. >> well, you know, there are certainly some issues the gop may need to soften on, i'm not sure it's the social issues. when you look at the latino and african-american vote the republicans got, most of those coming in were social conservatives and not fiscal conservatives. so, you dropped the social conservatism and now you're at a deficit on the latino and the african-american vote they have which isn't sizable but every vote counts. so, if you then toss out the fiscal conservatives, then you lose a lot of the oriented versions of the republicans. they're going to have to try to work in a coalition and i suspect it's probably going to be the fiscal side that ultimately the republicans waffle on because if you look demgraphically at african-american voters, they

are less inclined to believe that absolute limited government works. i think the gop is going to have to go more towards a small government, economic populous message. >> as funny as it sounds, you were very clear about the ambiguity this week on redstate.com. you're not sure what republicans in congress stands for as it relates to fiscal issues. where would you like to see them go? >> i would like to see the gop be a limited government party. it makes the case that spending from washington doesn't actually help people. the younger voters actually think it does. the gop needs to make the case it doesn't. but, in particular, i think republicans need to understand that it is easier because of them and because of the democrats for a major corporation to go to washington with lobbyists and get loopholes in the law than it is to innovate. the gop needs to stop being the party of big business and start being the party of entreprene entrepreneurs. >> let's listen to something senator john mccain said this week about demographics and moving forward politically to

try to grow the party and then we'll talk about it on the other side. >> there is no doubt, whatsoever, that the demographics are not on our side and we're going to have to give a much more positive agenda. it can't be just being against the democrats. >> is it, is the problem that the agenda isn't optimistic enough or presented as an optimistic agenda or do people know exactly where republicans stand and they just disagree with the party whole heartedly? t. >> i think it did not help mitt romney during the primary to try to pivot so hard to the right on immigration issues that he left a lot of people with a bad taste in their negotiations such as deportation. the republicans did come off as more angry and less opmystic. the james carville rule, they ran a doom and gloom campaign in 2012. i think they do need to be happy warriors.

look, i know as a conservative, whether anyone else knows it or not, smaller government works best and less taxes is good for everybody. at the same time, the gop didn't sell that message in a way that resonates with people. >> the problem with mitt romney he had to go so far hard right he did have to do that because the people who vote in primaries are typically on the edge. they're not really center left or center right. so, is the republican party really ready for someone who says they are pro-choice or they are not on the far right with all the people who provide the money and the votes in these primaries? >> no, i wouldn't hang on to the far right monitor that i said. i would hang on to the far right on immigration. look, when you look at some of the more reasonable proposals, for example, rick perry had one that a lot of conservatives who aren't in favor actually embraced. so did herman cain and newt gingri gingrich. it is that issue. i think if republicans, i mean,

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do same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry? we don't know yet. but the u.s. supreme court held a closed door meeting to decide whether to hear a series of appeals. but it didn't say if they'll take the action on the divisive issue. some took this as a sign the nine justices need more time. we expect an announcement by monday. this week a controversial therapy is getting a whole lot of attention. it is called conversion or reparative therapy. some people believe that you can convert through therapy. the practice will be banned in california for anyone under the age of 18. and now in new jersey four gay men have filed a lawsuit against jews offering new alternative for healing. they claim that it falsely promised cures and used tactics that sound less like therapy and more like mental torture.

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we want to get back now to the story of the controversial thera therapy. getting a lot of attention this week. those who believe in it and follow it they actually believe that you can turn gays straight. i had a chance recently to talk to a man who went through some of that therapy and here's his story. when ryan kindle was 13, his mother read his diary and discovered he was gay. that was the beginning of the most painful years of his life. >> for years i thought that god hated me because i was gay. >> reporter: ryan says his parents were determined to change him. they signed him up for what is called reparative therapy with the national association for research and therapy for

homosexuality otherwise known as narth. reparative therapy has been used for decades as a way to turn potentially gay children straight. >> every day i would hear, this is a choice. this can be fixed. >> and did you believe that? >> i never believed that. i know i'm gay just like i'm short and i'm half hispanic and i never thought those facts would change. part of my core, fundamental identity. so, the parallel would be sending me to tall camp and saying, if you try really hard, one day you can be 6'1". ryan said he was treated by a clinical psychologist who today is still associated with narth. >> the constant refrain was the religious one. this is something that makes god cry. >> reporter: at his office outside los angeles, we asked nikalosi if he remembered treating brian kendall about 14 years earlier. >> i'm not flr wiamiliar with t

name at all. >> there have been checks written to the office. but no record? >> no. >> he said your therapy was quite harmful. you told him to butch up, quote/unquote. >> never. that's not our language. >> when somebody says people like yourself -- >> that's a terrible way of phrasing it. i would rather say we're trying to bring out the heterosexuality in you. >> reporter: nicolosi has kept hundreds of children from growing up. a researcher and big believer that homosexuality can be prevented. he worked at a doctoral student at ucla in the 1970s in a government experimental program. he treated a boy named kirk murphy. to turn around kirk's so-called sissy behavior kirk was repeatedly asked to choose between masculine toys like plastic guns and knives or

feminine ones. if he chose the feminine items, kirk's mother would be told to ignore him. kirk'ss siblings told anderson his personality changed. >> he had no idea how to relate to people. >> reporter: he considered kirk a success story, writing his feminine behavior was gone, proof that homosexuality could be prevented. kirk's family said he was gay and never recovered from the attempts to turn him straight. in 2003, kirk took his own life. he hanged himself from a fan in his apartment. he was 38. our producers tracked george rekers down in florida. >> what do you say to the family that the therapy you did as a child led to his suicide as an adult? >> i think scientifically that would be inaccurate to assume that